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Similarity and Enjoyment

Gabriel

262 day(s) ago

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On average, women make up half of introductory-level philosophy courses, but only one-third of upper-division courses. We contribute to the growing literature on this problem by reporting the striking results of our study at the University of Oklahoma. We found that two attitudes are especially strong predictors of whether women are likely to continue in philosophy: (i) feeling similar to the kinds of people who become philosophers, and (ii) enjoying philosophical puzzles and issues. In a regression analysis, they account for 63% of variance. Importantly, women are significantly less likely to hold these attitudes than men. Thus, instructors who care about improving the retention of women undergraduates should find ways to improve these attitudes – for instance, by demonstrating the ways in which professional philosophers are like them. We will discuss some tentative but intuitively plausible suggestions for interventions, though further research is required to establish the effectiveness of those interventions.

https://academic.oup.com/analysis/article/4058462/Similarity-and-enjoyment- Predicting-continuation

Noah

262 day(s) ago

"feeling similar to the kinds of people who become philosophers"

That might have a damn thing to do with gender or sex. And if it does, it's not clearly rightfully considered when running a job search.

Alexandre

262 day(s) ago

Why don't the authors for a change focus on the other issue, 'enjoying philosophical puzzles and issues'? How are we supposed to make female students enjoy philosophy, and why is it important to do that?

Joachim

256 day(s) ago

Jesus, they aren't even making half-hearted efforts to cover up their political agenda anymore.

Bracha

9 day(s) ago

On average, women make up half of introductory-level philosophy courses, but only one-third of upper-division courses. We contribute to the growing literature on this problem by reporting the striking results of our study at the University of Oklahoma. We found that two attitudes are especially strong predictors of whether women are likely to continue in philosophy: (i) feeling similar to the kinds of people who become philosophers, and (ii) enjoying philosophical puzzles and issues. In a regression analysis, they account for 63% of variance. Importantly, women are significantly less likely to hold these attitudes than men. Thus, instructors who care about improving the retention of women undergraduates should find ways to improve these attitudes – for instance, by demonstrating the ways in which professional philosophers are like them. We will discuss some tentative but intuitively plausible suggestions for interventions, though further research is required to establish the effectiveness of those interventions.

http://www.mycfavisit.org/

Theodor

9 day(s) ago

People have no idea about what philosophy is in introductory courses."Is it some kind of English course that talks about Ideas?" But then they see a bunch of autistic shit and get out

Vauvenargues

9 day(s) ago

People have no idea about what philosophy is in introductory courses."Is it some kind of English course that talks about Ideas?" But then they see a bunch of autistic shit and get out

Theodor

Funny because it's so perfectly true. We are still enough like math to have a place for neurodiversity. The best philosophers who I know personally are without exception spergs or sperg-like. Easily outflanked by the minimally socially intelligent professionals in the prestige game, except when it really matters. Happily for the real philosophers, they mostly couldn't give a shit.

I will say though, that all my black and hispanic students and my best female students were attracted to philosophy by "autistic shit" rather than fashionable ideological bullshit. The kind of students that we should want tend to see through lifestyle-philosophy pretty easily. The loudmouths in our profession have a racist/sexist tendency to think that we need to be relevant to the feelings of female/non-white students in order to attract them to philosophy.

Theodor

9 day(s) ago

People have no idea about what philosophy is in introductory courses."Is it some kind of English course that talks about Ideas?" But then they see a bunch of autistic shit and get out

Theodor

Funny because it's so perfectly true. We are still enough like math to have a place for neurodiversity. The best philosophers who I know personally are without exception spergs or sperg-like. Easily outflanked by the minimally socially intelligent professionals in the prestige game, except when it really matters. Happily for the real philosophers, they mostly couldn't give a shit.

I will say though, that all my black and hispanic students and my best female students were attracted to philosophy by "autistic shit" rather than fashionable ideological bullshit. The kind of students that we should want tend to see through lifestyle-philosophy pretty easily. The loudmouths in our profession have a racist/sexist tendency to think that we need to be relevant to the feelings of female/non-white students in order to attract them to philosophy.

Vauvenargues

I totally agree. I'm 'hispanic' and I don't feel drawn at all to the ideological bullshit, as you call it, and the whole condescending attitude of 'we gotta make sure the kids are safe!'



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