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Upcoming PGR Predictions?

Kevin

190 day(s) ago

Foresee any changes in the top ten? Top 50? Most underrated department? Most overrated? Biggest jump?

Juliet

190 day(s) ago

By righs UCLA should be going down a bit this round. Yale remains vastly overrated, as well as Harvard, but I doubt they'll take any hits. Brown will remain underrated. Miami will plunge to the bottom of the US 50 and off the international 50. McGill and Western might trade places (the Canadian ranking is pretty unstable--and the Canadian departments are seriously underrated), and UBC will make sone gains but remain behind Toronto (Wylie was a big hire, and IIRC their juniors/new associates are solid).

Wisconsin might go down (I don't remember who they lost), and UCSD will probably gain a bit

Donna

190 day(s) ago

Yale's biggest liability is older faculty and Jason Stanley's crackup. I agree Brown is underrated. Canadian departments are not underrated, they are not, apart from Toronto, very good.

Günter

190 day(s) ago

Canadian departments are not underrated, they are not, apart from Toronto, very good.

Donna

These aren't hills I'd die on, but... IMO it wouldn't be out of place to rank Toronto in the T10 internationally, and it's certainly on par with the US T10. The next three Canadian programs are all quite strong, but they've all also prioritized different things in their hiring and in their programs, which hampers them a bit. So UBC is pretty strong on Mind, Epistemology, Science, but really weak on history; Western is an absolute powerhouse in Mind and Science (and places like a T10ish department), but is pretty weak otherwise; McGill is strong on history and value theory, but lost most of its dedicated (and very talented ) LEMMings a while ago, and never really replaced them. IMO these three wouldn't be out of place in the US 30-40 range, and Alberta and Calgary are certainly on par with the lower end of the US rankings. After that, the programs get rather more boutique-y, I'll admit.

At least I can say that I've heard of/read a lot of work by faculty in all those departments, which is more than I can say for most of the bottom end of the US PGR. Shrug.

Susanne

190 day(s) ago

Canadian departments are not underrated, they are not, apart from Toronto, very good.

Donna

These aren't hills I'd die on, but... IMO it wouldn't be out of place to rank Toronto in the T10 internationally, and it's certainly on par with the US T10. The next three Canadian programs are all quite strong, but they've all also prioritized different things in their hiring and in their programs, which hampers them a bit. So UBC is pretty strong on Mind, Epistemology, Science, but really weak on history; Western is an absolute powerhouse in Mind and Science (and places like a T10ish department), but is pretty weak otherwise; McGill is strong on history and value theory, but lost most of its dedicated (and very talented ) LEMMings a while ago, and never really replaced them. IMO these three wouldn't be out of place in the US 30-40 range, and Alberta and Calgary are certainly on par with the lower end of the US rankings. After that, the programs get rather more boutique-y, I'll admit.

At least I can say that I've heard of/read a lot of work by faculty in all those departments, which is more than I can say for most of the bottom end of the US PGR. Shrug.

Günter

McGill is not up to its university fame. Like Harbard or Yale, after all. But at least in McGill's case this is reflected in the PGR.

Shulamith

190 day(s) ago

By righs UCLA should be going down a bit this round.

Juliet

Having considered applying, I'm curious to know why you think this.

Günter

190 day(s) ago

By righs UCLA should be going down a bit this round.

Juliet

Having considered applying, I'm curious to know why you think this.

Shulamith

Boatload of prominent retirements, both actual and forthcoming. They still have a solid set of faculty members, though. And they've been doing a good job with hiring. They'll recover.

Günter

190 day(s) ago

By righs UCLA should be going down a bit this round.

Juliet

Having considered applying, I'm curious to know why you think this.

Shulamith

Boatload of prominent retirements, both actual and forthcoming. They still have a solid set of faculty members, though. And they've been doing a good job with hiring. They'll recover.

Max

190 day(s) ago

1. NYU

2. Rutgers

3. Princeton

4. Mich

5. Yale

6. Pitt

6. USC

8. Harvard

8. Stanford

8. Berkeley

10. Columbia

Peg

182 day(s) ago

New School to #1.

How the fuck did I miss this self-important, pretentious shit?

http://www.otherpress.com/books/memory-theater/

"From this renowned philosopher comes a debut work of fiction, at once a brilliant précis of the history of philosophy, a semiautobiographical meditation on the absurd relationship between knowledge and memory, and a very funny story

A French philosopher dies during a savage summer heat wave. Boxes carrying his unpublished papers mysteriously appear in Simon Critchley’s office. Rooting through them, Critchley discovers a brilliant text on the ancient art of memory and a cache of astrological charts predicting the deaths of various philosophers. Among them is a chart for Critchley himself, laying out in great detail the course of his life and eventual demise. While waiting for his friend’s prediction to come through, Critchley receives the missing, final box, which contains a maquette of Giulio Camillo’s sixteenth-century Venetian memory theater, a space supposed to contain the sum of all knowledge. With nothing left to hope for, Critchley devotes himself to one final project before his death—the building of a structure to house his collective memories and document the remnants of his entire life."

Philippa

182 day(s) ago

Yale's biggest liability is older faculty and Jason Stanley's crackup. I agree Brown is underrated. Canadian departments are not underrated, they are not, apart from Toronto, very good.

Donna

What is this "Stanley's crackup" you refer to?

Cesare,

180 day(s) ago

Yale's biggest liability is older faculty and Jason Stanley's crackup. I agree Brown is underrated. Canadian departments are not underrated, they are not, apart from Toronto, very good.

Donna

What is this "Stanley's crackup" you refer to?

Philippa

He had a meltdown on FB, or a series of meltdowns, I heard. I'm not friends with him. Getting called out for his narcissism wasn't a nice experience, so he made a big dramatic exit. Not going to move the PGR needle.

Albert

180 day(s) ago

Yale's biggest liability is older faculty and Jason Stanley's crackup. I agree Brown is underrated. Canadian departments are not underrated, they are not, apart from Toronto, very good.

Donna

What is this "Stanley's crackup" you refer to?

Philippa

He had a meltdown on FB, or a series of meltdowns, I heard. I'm not friends with him. Getting called out for his narcissism wasn't a nice experience, so he made a big dramatic exit. Not going to move the PGR needle.

Cesare,

When did this happen? What was it over?

Agostino

180 day(s) ago

Mid-2016, maybe? I don't know the content myself. Anyone?

Augustine

178 day(s) ago

I am not Donna, but I don't think "she" meant literally cracked up. I think what she mean is what everyone knows, he is an extreme narcissist, who made his reputation doing regular philosophy of language and epistemology, and now says silly shit like "Feminist philosopher is first philosophy" and writes crap like the propaganda book. So he's no more or less sane than he ever was, it's just his work sucks and he says stupid stuff in public.

Augustine

178 day(s) ago

Sorry about all those typos

Gustav

178 day(s) ago

Stanley's Propaganda book has been reviewed in Analysis, Mind, Ethics, Political Theory (the top Political Science theory journal), as well as many other journals. These reviews are all extremely positive. It has also been very positively reviewed by the lead book reviewer of The NY Times. There must be some huge conspiracy by a very wide range of diverse well-established academics as well as the mainstream media to cover up that book's supposed awfulness?

Epictetus

178 day(s) ago

Gustav=Jason.

Stanley

178 day(s) ago

Stanley's Propaganda book has been reviewed in Analysis, Mind, Ethics, Political Theory (the top Political Science theory journal), as well as many other journals. These reviews are all extremely positive. It has also been very positively reviewed by the lead book reviewer of The NY Times. There must be some huge conspiracy by a very wide range of diverse well-established academics as well as the mainstream media to cover up that book's supposed awfulness?

Gustav

But is it better than Jacques Ellul's seminal work on propaganda? Hell, does it even cite it? (I genuinely don't know--I haven't read it.)

Werner

178 day(s) ago

An elegant takedown of Stanley's book for TLS:

https://www.academia.edu/22625558/TLS_Review_of_Jason_Stanley_How_Propaganda_Works

Karl

178 day(s) ago

Stanley's Propaganda book has been reviewed in Analysis, Mind, Ethics, Political Theory (the top Political Science theory journal), as well as many other journals. These reviews are all extremely positive. It has also been very positively reviewed by the lead book reviewer of The NY Times. There must be some huge conspiracy by a very wide range of diverse well-established academics as well as the mainstream media to cover up that book's supposed awfulness?

Gustav

Yes. Why do you act like that is somehow so implausible. Are you twelve?

Judah

178 day(s) ago

Perhaps there is a big conspiracy to promote Stanley's book. But if so, it involves a wide range of people with very different views. These people are from inside philosophy and outside philosophy and from inside academia and outside academia. Given that the book is being translated into Chinese, Turkish, and Japanese, it also is a conspiracy that involves many different countries:

https://campuspress.yale.edu/jasonstanley/books/

Judah

178 day(s) ago

Who wouldn't want to work with someone with so much power over so many?

Judah

178 day(s) ago

Noam Chomsky also appears to be in on the conspiracy:

http://www.worldpolicy.org/blog/2016/07/22/talking-policy-noam-chomsky-academia-and-us-foreign-policy

Dorothy

178 day(s) ago

greedy Jhew

Valentino

177 day(s) ago

Jason, posting under the various pseudonyms here, is counting on people not actually having read the reviews. I have read some of them, many are lukewarm. But look at the authors. The Ethics review was by a PhD student! Of course she is going to be careful given Jason's reputation for vindictive abuse of younger colleagues. Noam Chomsky is Jason's friend from his MIT days. The NY Times chief book reviewer is famous for great philosophical judgment. LOL.

Judah

177 day(s) ago

Wow the conspiracy involves Jo Wolff as well!

https://academic.oup.com/analysis/article-abstract/76/4/558/2624109/How-Propaganda-Works?redirectedFrom=fulltext

Judah

177 day(s) ago

http://www- personal.umich.edu/~ericsw/research/Swanson,%20Critical%20Notice%20of%20How%20Propaganda%20Works.pdf

And Eric Swanson! What an incredible conspiracy. Stanley managed to get people to write dozens of reviews, special issues of journals, symposia, all through his malevolent power. Incredible. It is true that there are lukewarm assessments - Rachel McKinnon's PPR symposium reply is an example, as is Leiter's. Guess what, philosophy is hard. Good luck doing better.

Judah

177 day(s) ago

http://www- personal.umich.edu/~ericsw/research/Swanson,%20Critical%20Notice%20of%20How%20Propaganda%20Works.pdf

And Eric Swanson! What an incredible conspiracy. Stanley managed to get people to write dozens of reviews, special issues of journals, symposia, all through his malevolent power. Incredible. It is true that there are lukewarm assessments - Rachel McKinnon's PPR symposium reply is an example, as is Leiter's. Guess what, philosophy is hard. Good luck doing better.

Jerry

177 day(s) ago

No one thinks there is a "conspiracy," Jason. Didn't you write for Eric Swanson's tenure? Surprise, he wrote a nice review of your book. He knows as little about the topic as you do. Valentino made the important observation that your reputation for vindictiveness influences those reviewers who are vulnerable. Because you previously did serious work, of course journals put on sympopsia and review the book. The book did get some positive reviews, but ask around "on the street" and find out what most people think, including some of the supposedly positive reviewers.

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