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Tim O’Connor: What’s the story?

Theophrastus

14 day(s) ago

I share every pornhub video I watch on facebook. I type up an analysis of each shot in the comments that would make Roger Ebert proud. Screencaps of my favorite frames. Anything less would be dishonest, and hiding my masculinity from those who should know of it. If you don't do this, too, you are pretending to be an asexual soy boy. Hell, you might just be an asexual soy boy.

Edmund

ok, so I seriously don't get following instagrams of bikini models. I mean, I'd only actively decide to look at those pics if I wanted to polish the old candlestick. And in that case, why not go straight to porn? Is it a conservative Christian thing or something--pin-ups are ok, people having sex isn't?

Anne

14 day(s) ago

Did he rape anyone, like Coursier did in Oxford?

Gersonides

Why don't you ask the undergrad carrying his baby?

Lisa

Well, that might explain his unexpected adoption announcement.

Gaius

14 day(s) ago

Who Trent follows on Instagram is telling. Below is an eyebrow-raising sampling that doesn’t include the many female Baylor undergraduate accounts he follows. If you want to see for yourself, his account is public. But check fast. I suspect that and who he follows will change soon.

https://www.instagram.com/soashleymarie

https://www.instagram.com/gypsygrrrrl

https://www.instagram.com/blacktapeproject

Sidney

Bizarre.and brazen

Luce

14 day(s) ago

I share every pornhub video I watch on facebook. I type up an analysis of each shot in the comments that would make Roger Ebert proud. Screencaps of my favorite frames. Anything less would be dishonest, and hiding my masculinity from those who should know of it. If you don't do this, too, you are pretending to be an asexual soy boy. Hell, you might just be an asexual soy boy.

Edmund

ok, so I seriously don't get following instagrams of bikini models. I mean, I'd only actively decide to look at those pics if I wanted to polish the old candlestick. And in that case, why not go straight to porn? Is it a conservative Christian thing or something--pin-ups are ok, people having sex isn't?

Theophrastus

I think it's actually sweet that this is the form that someone's fetish takes.

Jose

14 day(s) ago

Come on, all straight men look at this - or stuff, shall we, along the same lines. Trent is at least honest enough not to hide it. And yea, there might be some Christian thing about porn being wrong so this is his deal. eh.

Richard

13 day(s) ago

Keep your sex life completely separate from your public/professional persona in the discipline. There's a big world of women who are not like the bitter and frustrated 30/40 somethings that hang on in academic life. Pretend you're a neutered accountant when it comes to "the profession". Be polite, but don't pander to this sad bunch of ladies. It's a losing strategy. When you are in a position of power, be fair and don't be intimidated by "whisper campaigns".

Hryhori

13 day(s) ago

Trent's latest on facebook: "im stupider then dog shit, i dont give a shit, and i dont give a fuck, and i will never shut the fuck up, and i'll always Respect my enemys."

Duns

13 day(s) ago

I think the best idea would be to smear him on social media with false accusations and chase him out of his home. It's only fair.

Kuo

13 day(s) ago

Which accusations are false, Trent?

Virgil

13 day(s) ago

BREAKING NEWS: Title IX investigators raid home, office, and hotel room of Trent Dougherty; sought records on pervy Instagram follows, payouts to silence Baylor undergraduate accusers

Hilary

13 day(s) ago

I have no clue who TD is, so I googled him and clicked on his Twitter. Dude looks like a butch lesbian in her early 50s.

Ernest

13 day(s) ago

There are three WNBA teams in Texas. A perk of the Baylor job, I guess.

I have no clue who TD is, so I googled him and clicked on his Twitter. Dude looks like a butch lesbian in her early 50s.

Hilary

R.R.

13 day(s) ago

Baylor administration's commitment to Title IX or even basic humanity is essentially non-existent.

Tadeusz

13 day(s) ago

Interesting that this thread shows up right around graduate admissions season, shortly before April 15th. Hopefully prospective students at Baylor know of this forum.

Umberto

12 day(s) ago

I would call for a citation boycott, but no one cites Trent Dougherty's work anyway. What other penalty could be imposed?

L.

12 day(s) ago

I would call for a citation boycott, but no one cites Trent Dougherty's work anyway. What other penalty could be imposed?

Umberto

This is silly. Let the work speak for itself good or bad. What can be done, and what is more relevant, is not inviting him to things. Who really wants someone at their conference who is just going to prey on people (which he does in often extreme ways). This is, by the way, already happening (disinvitations, etc.). It is not because of mere rumors and online speculation. It is because the people running these conferences have heard from multiple trustworthy sources about what he has done to them.

Thucydides

12 day(s) ago

I would call for a citation boycott, but no one cites Trent Dougherty's work anyway. What other penalty could be imposed?

Umberto

This is silly. Let the work speak for itself good or bad. What can be done, and what is more relevant, is not inviting him to things. Who really wants someone at their conference who is just going to prey on people (which he does in often extreme ways). This is, by the way, already happening (disinvitations, etc.). It is not because of mere rumors and online speculation. It is because the people running these conferences have heard from multiple trustworthy sources about what he has done to them.

L.

anonymous post on the internet says powerful conference decion makers know x and that she knows from trustworthy sources that x.. so x must be true.

Kit

12 day(s) ago

I would love to ban all philosophers from ever speaking, writing, or otherwise communicating again. With the possible exception of Brotevi, they are all losers.

Otto

12 day(s) ago

Old Logos 2018 schedule:

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:QEgiIP976JwJ:https://philreligion.nd.edu/calendar/annual- logos-workshop/logos-2018/schedule/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Current Logos 2018 schedule:

https://philreligion.nd.edu/calendar/annual-logos-workshop/logos-2018/schedule/

Bye bye, Trent.

Alejandro

12 day(s) ago

Thanks, Otto. I hope that means what you say it means. If it does, this is evidence that senior figures in Christian philosophy are paying attention and trying to do the right thing.

Heinrich

12 day(s) ago

Alejandro's favorite pasta sauce is Urinara.

Imre

12 day(s) ago

I share every pornhub video I watch on facebook. I type up an analysis of each shot in the comments that would make Roger Ebert proud. Screencaps of my favorite frames. Anything less would be dishonest, and hiding my masculinity from those who should know of it. If you don't do this, too, you are pretending to be an asexual soy boy. Hell, you might just be an asexual soy boy.

Edmund

Being philosophical about this: It's actually kind of weird, when you think about it, that there is still some sense of shamefulness or 'inappropriateness' in the idea of someone publicly sharing his favorite porn, or writing an analysis, or whatever, given the way things are going. If it's now just completely normal and no-big-deal and 'appropriate' for undergrad girls to post these pics of themselves where anyone can ogle, pics which are often just soft porn by the standards of even 30 years ago (or less), it seems like it should be just as normal and no-big-deal and 'appropriate' for straight men to look and, yeah, share or discuss or publicly express their straight-male sexuality. I don't really understand what is meant by 'appropriate' at this point. I can understand those who think it's inappropriate (or sinful, or something) for women to dress like street walkers in class and post naked or just-barely-clothed pics of themselves all over the internets _and_ inappropriate for men to ogle and get turned on and, in general, do what they're naturally wired to do in response to that kind of display; I can understand those who think the displays and ogling are equally 'appropriate' (or fun, or liberating, or whatever). But the consensus seems to be that just one of these things is normal and 'appropriate' while the natural male response is shameful and wrong.

Maybe I should add I know nothing about this guy or this issue, and don't really care. I'm just struck by the weirdness of the culture we now inhabit, as exemplified by the instagram stuff and the quasi-moralistic response to this guys' (entirely normal and natural) prurient interest in it. Or maybe it's not even that prurient. I can enjoy beautiful tits and ass in a detached high-minded way once in a while...

Jerzy

12 day(s) ago

The only people who care about Trent Dougherty are probably Christians who have their own peculiar sexual ethics, so it's not that weird when you think about it, Imre.

Aleksei

11 day(s) ago

Jerzy: I think you're wrong about the larger point. Lots of feminists, HR commissars, and regular people (who aren't Christians) seem to think it's bad for some middle aged dude to be openly ogling or sharing his interest in this stuff. ("Inappropriate", "pervy", "creepy"...) At least that's been my impression: females can be as publicly sexual as they want, and it's fun, freeing, empowering (i.e., good) while male sexuality is supposed to be private, controlled, gentlemanly. Where I work the girls really di often traipse in to class looking like streetwalkers. I'm expected to interact with them as if they were wearing burqas (or as if I were a robot).

Ibn

11 day(s) ago

Jerzy: I think you're wrong about the larger point. Lots of feminists, HR commissars, and regular people (who aren't Christians) seem to think it's bad for some middle aged dude to be openly ogling or sharing his interest in this stuff. ("Inappropriate", "pervy", "creepy"...) At least that's been my impression: females can be as publicly sexual as they want, and it's fun, freeing, empowering (i.e., good) while male sexuality is supposed to be private, controlled, gentlemanly. Where I work the girls really di often traipse in to class looking like streetwalkers. I'm expected to interact with them as if they were wearing burqas (or as if I were a robot).

Aleksei

Hi, Serf.

Hermann

11 day(s) ago

Me too.

But I’m skeptical. Maybe he backed out for “personal reasons” or even backed out preemptively. Though Rea and company do seem sensitive to gender issues and this Logos happens to be on topics for which it would be too ironic to have Trent comment.

Thanks, Otto. I hope that means what you say it means. If it does, this is evidence that senior figures in Christian philosophy are paying attention and trying to do the right thing.

Alejandro

Baruch

11 day(s) ago

Jerzy: I think you're wrong about the larger point. Lots of feminists, HR commissars, and regular people (who aren't Christians) seem to think it's bad for some middle aged dude to be openly ogling or sharing his interest in this stuff. ("Inappropriate", "pervy", "creepy"...) At least that's been my impression: females can be as publicly sexual as they want, and it's fun, freeing, empowering (i.e., good) while male sexuality is supposed to be private, controlled, gentlemanly. Where I work the girls really di often traipse in to class looking like streetwalkers. I'm expected to interact with them as if they were wearing burqas (or as if I were a robot).

Aleksei

Women talk about "welcome" and "unwelcome" attention. Attractive men in the right age, race, and class ranges provide "welcome" attention to the displays from young women. Attention from other populations is "unwelcome" and "creepy".

Follow Richard's advice above and you'll be fine. Your job is to teach philosophy. Just wait until these women aren't students anymore before accepting their approaches and for God's sake try not to get involved with female grad students and faculty. It's really not that hard.

There is no winning (for men) once you mix your job with your romantic life. Women actually won't be happy in a desexualized work environment, but for men it's the best possible scenario.

Bracha

9 day(s) ago

Being philosophical about this: It's actually kind of weird, when you think about it, that there is still some sense of shamefulness or 'inappropriateness' in the idea of someone publicly sharing his favorite porn, or writing an analysis, or whatever, given the way things are going. If it's now just completely normal and no-big-deal and 'appropriate' for undergrad girls to post these pics of themselves where anyone can ogle, pics which are often just soft porn by the standards of even 30 years ago (or less), it seems like it should be just as normal and no-big-deal and 'appropriate' for straight men to look and, yeah, share or discuss or publicly express their straight-male sexuality. I don't really understand what is meant by 'appropriate' at this point. I can understand those who think it's inappropriate (or sinful, or something) for women to dress like street walkers in class and post naked or just-barely-clothed pics of themselves all over the internets _and_ inappropriate for men to ogle and get turned on and, in general, do what they're naturally wired to do in response to that kind of display; I can understand those who think the displays and ogling are equally 'appropriate' (or fun, or liberating, or whatever). But the consensus seems to be that just one of these things is normal and 'appropriate' while the natural male response is shameful and wrong.

Maybe I should add I know nothing about this guy or this issue, and don't really care. I'm just struck by the weirdness of the culture we now inhabit, as exemplified by the instagram stuff and the quasi-moralistic response to this guys' (entirely normal and natural) prurient interest in it. Or maybe it's not even that prurient. I can enjoy beautiful tits and ass in a detached high-minded way once in a while..

http://www.mybpcreditcards.org/

Wolfhart

9 day(s) ago

Me too.

But I’m skeptical. Maybe he backed out for “personal reasons” or even backed out preemptively. Though Rea and company do seem sensitive to gender issues and this Logos happens to be on topics for which it would be too ironic to have Trent comment.

Thanks, Otto. I hope that means what you say it means. If it does, this is evidence that senior figures in Christian philosophy are paying attention and trying to do the right thing.

Alejandro

Hermann

Regardless, women will feel more comfortable at Logos, and that's a good thing.

Meister

7 day(s) ago

Updates?

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