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Kipnis

Troy

185 day(s) ago

Itchy's take-downs have been pompous but powerful. The Kipnis defenders seem to have given up.

Alvin

185 day(s) ago

Nah it's just that the news cycle has moved on.

Linda

185 day(s) ago

Itchy does what awkward epistemologists have always done, which never works: take a text and treat it like a piece of analytic philosophy, and then make a big fuss when it doesn't hold up to that kind of weird autistic scrutiny. To do this is to fundamentally misunderstand the genre of Kipnis' book and the kind of argument it offers.

Rudolf

184 day(s) ago

I read a couple of his things on it, but thought they were the weakest of sauce. What'm I missing?

Seemed like a fairly standard dogmatic approach: if your argument is going where I want it to go, I add as much force as I can to help get it there; if it's going in a direction I don't like, I impede it in every vaguely plausible way, frantically dragging my feet until I can claim to have halted its progress...thus proving, at most, that if I'm allowed to deploy different standards of proof to contrary positions, I can make the weaker argument seem to defeat the stronger.

Virginia

184 day(s) ago

He makes it sound like she's very reliant on flimsy stereotypes. Cho must be lying because Ludlow is attractive, wouldn't drink Red Bull, etc?

Miranda

184 day(s) ago

I heard an interview Kipnis gave on the radio. She's an idiot, and her book sounds like a pile of weak drivel. Drab dribble, even.

I'm pretty sure she knows it, too. She's just making a quick buck or two by piggybacking on the male rage out there. And maybe settling a few scores while she's at it. All in all, it doesn't paint a very nice picture of her.

Henri

184 day(s) ago

Cho lacks credibility concerning the events in question, given the ludicrous testimony she proferred at her deposition under oath, subject to pains of perjury. If she'd actually jumped in Lake Michigan during the winter, she'd probably be dead or have required emergency care, among other things. Doe lacks credibility as evidenced by the text messages exchanged between Doe and Ludlow. Some of Kipsnis' contentions are dumb and happen to line up with her own biases. Not clear how that alone undermines her narrative on the whole. On the contrary, if she'd played fast and loose with important facts, that might be of interest, but Itchy and the aspiring lawyer philosopher Pogin have failed to show any such thing.

Henri

184 day(s) ago

He makes it sound like she's very reliant on flimsy stereotypes. Cho must be lying because Ludlow is attractive, wouldn't drink Red Bull, etc?

Virginia

The book at times traffics in flimsy stereotypes. The important contentions advanced by the book's implicit arguments do not depend on them, in part because Kipnis provides powerful alternate grounds that appear to seriously undermine the credibility of Ludlow's Does. In either case, the question is not really whether the charges have been established or falsified. It's whether they were esttablished by a preponderance of the evidence, and whether we're comfortable destroying careers and possibly lives when charges have been established if at all by a mere preponderance.

Gayatri

183 day(s) ago

I've been in Lake Michigan, naked, more than once, in the winter. I did not require emergency care and I am not dead.

Olav

183 day(s) ago

I've been in Lake Michigan, naked, more than once, in the winter. I did not require emergency care and I am not dead.

Gayatri

Was it late at night? Afterwards, did you put on soaking wet clothes and walk around outside for hours?

Chantal

183 day(s) ago

And did you walk around outside in order to dry off in below-freezing weather, while wearing the clothes you wore while fully immersed in the lake? And did you succeed in drying of in this way so that nobody noticed you had been in the lake when you arrived at your residence hall and strolled by the security person at the front desk?

Please explain this scientific marvel.

Jesús

183 day(s) ago

I've always assumed Jonathan Jenkins Ichikawa was a Blanchard (one of them started a blog called Epistocalypse or something like that) or some other troll. The posts are too over the top to be sincere. I think the joke is supposed to be that the people who post here and elsewhere about negative trends in the profession are on a par with aggressive street preachers screaming about the apocalypse.

Otto

183 day(s) ago

I've always assumed Jonathan Jenkins Ichikawa was a Blanchard (one of them started a blog called Epistocalypse or something like that) or some other troll. The posts are too over the top to be sincere. I think the joke is supposed to be that the people who post here and elsewhere about negative trends in the profession are on a par with aggressive street preachers screaming about the apocalypse.

Jesús

Actually the blog is spelled "epistepocalypse," and the connection is unlikely since it is mostly a propaganda platform on behalf of the FBI:

https://epistepocalypse.wordpress.com/2017/05/27/james-comey-dont-give-a- shit/

Wendy

183 day(s) ago

Gayatri here.

Olav: Yes, it was late at night, each time. No to your other question (of course -- that would be crazy).

Chantal: No to both questions. Re-read what I wrote. I went in naked. Also, were I to do as you describe, it would be a physical marvel, but not a scientific one.

I'm starting to get the feeling that some of you people don't even want to have fun. The rest of you should meet me at the lake at midnight, six months from now.

Olav

183 day(s) ago

Wendy/Gayatri: You seem to think that the well-known fact that weirdos go swimming in Lake Michigan in the winter somehow disproves some claim of Kipnis.' If you had read the book you would know that she actually explicitly discusses the fact that people do that and actually explicitly points out the relevant differences between the two cases.

Wendy

183 day(s) ago

Humorlessness abounds.


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