Study on gender and prestige effects

Tadeusz

7 day(s) ago

Reported on DN no less.

Market outcomes starting in 2014 and going back 10 years offer no evidence women are at a disadvantage in tenure-track competitions.

http://dailynous.com/2017/06/16/new-study-gender-program-prestige-hiring-philosophers/

Stanley

7 day(s) ago

As far as I can tell, none of this is new. It's just CDJ's work repackaged.

Tadeusz

7 day(s) ago

Yeah but it's now published in a respectable, peer-reviewed, non-phiilosophy journal.

Leonard

7 day(s) ago

Way to bury the lede:

The study focuses chiefly on the Academic Placement Data and Analysis (APDA) work of Carolyn Dicey Jennings (UC Merced). Allen-Hermanson argues that the APDA findings strongly support the conclusion that “men are significantly less likely to obtain permanent positions.” Additionally, “female candidates had about half as many publications as their male counterparts.” He adds, “men and women appear to be held to different standards.”

Lynne

7 day(s) ago

Kudos to Weinberg for posting it at all. I wouldn't have expected him to do so.

Naomi

7 day(s) ago

Every time an armchair rationale for preferential hiring is shown to be baseless with actual evidence, a new one is invented. A new iteration of the whack-a-mole game we're apparently playing:

"So maybe departments are finally starting to realize that one (perhaps not the only) way to help [the issue of higher attrition rates for women] is to have more women on the faculty who can interact with women grad students (and students in general) in a meaningful, professional way. No, I’m not saying that men are not likely to do that; but perhaps women would still feel a bit more welcome at certain departments events etc. if they weren’t the only women around."

We don't know that attrition is higher for women, nor do we know that it would be combated effectively simply by hiring more women. If women in philosophy are selected for toughness, as another hypothesis holds, why think that the women who have made it will be supportive rather than disdainful of those who aren't so tough?

It is hard to shake the feeling that claims like the above are post hoc rationalizations for policies that people favor for independent reasons.

Anne

7 day(s) ago

Good work by Kaufman and Lemoine on DN. Now someone needs to post a link to this site, maybe hidden in their name/URL thing.

Anton

7 day(s) ago

It would be fucking lovely if the narrative that has recently been used to justify anti-male sexism throughout philosophy is starting to crumble. Probably too much to hope for though.

Stanley

7 day(s) ago

Yeah but it's now published in a respectable, peer-reviewed, non-phiilosophy journal.

Tadeusz

It's still all the same things she said, and using the data she gathered and analysed, and using her analysis. Cheap trick.

Peg

7 day(s) ago

This review was linked to in the DN thread. More criticisms of the political acceptance of the dubious implicit bias findings.

https://philpapers.org/rec/ALLRIB

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