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London fire and institutional philosophy's betrayal of truth

Anne

184 day(s) ago

Leiter has mentioned that the recent tragedy in London was a political event, for a variety of reasons.

https://jacobinmag.com/2017/06/grenfell-tower-fire-inequality-housing

And it surely is, but it is very sad to know that no one in a mainstream institutional context will come out and state the obvious reason as to why it above all was political.

It did not collapse, which is hardly a surprise since steel building don't collapse from fire.

And yet, now almost twenty years of war in the Middle East, and after millions of dead, the university (and professional philosophy) still ignores the fact that nothing about what we were told happened on 9/11 makes sense.

WTC7 fell at near free fall speed into its own footprint, presumably due to fire and structural weakening:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JnLcUxV1dPo

The defining political event of our time is a lie, and we all witnessed a painful reminder of it in this recent London tragedy, and yet everyone wants to go on believing the lie.

My advice would be to stop caring about this world and its political institutions and simply do the best you can every day to love your neighbor as yourself, and to live a life of purity and truth. What more can one do anyway? The world is broken and its passing away, so don't get sucked into the illusion.

Terry

184 day(s) ago

The London fire isn't a political event. They used cladding that's been used in up to 30,000 buildings in the UK, but which now is understood to be dangerous. True US and Germany ahead of the curve on this, and others like UK, France, Canada behind. But how many newspaper articles can you find me on this that aren't from the last week?

Colin

184 day(s) ago

I find it weird that everyone downvotes these admittedly unusual religious postings. I find them pretty far removed from my way of thinking, but not at all intrusive or troll like, and it's nice and refreshing to have a real diversity of viewpoints. I think it's a bit silly of us here of all places to form a downvote mob just because we mostly don't think religiously ourselves.

Anil

184 day(s) ago

Wow, a Truther, live in the flesh. This is making me feel all nostalgic and shit -- it's been a while since I've seen a random "9/11 was an inside job" post. You guys have sort of died out, no? Even Alex Jones has sort of dropped the Truther thing. Anyway, good times...

Naomi

184 day(s) ago

I've always assumed it was a Blanchard (one of them started a blog called Epistocalypse or something like that) or some other troll. The posts are too over the top to be sincere. I think the joke is supposed to be that the people who post here and elsewhere about negative trends in the profession are on a par with aggressive street preachers screaming about the apocalypse.

Hartry

184 day(s) ago

I've always assumed it was a Blanchard (one of them started a blog called Epistocalypse or something like that) or some other troll. The posts are too over the top to be sincere. I think the joke is supposed to be that the people who post here and elsewhere about negative trends in the profession are on a par with aggressive street preachers screaming about the apocalypse.

Naomi

Not completely implausible, although that does seem somewhat more clever than I'd expect from them. On the other hand, I hadn't heard about this Epistocalypse blog you mention. If they did that then they probably did this.

Anne

184 day(s) ago

I've always assumed it was a Blanchard (one of them started a blog called Epistocalypse or something like that) or some other troll. The posts are too over the top to be sincere. I think the joke is supposed to be that the people who post here and elsewhere about negative trends in the profession are on a par with aggressive street preachers screaming about the apocalypse.

Naomi

Said like a true man of the world: you can't take your job with you when you die. It's only rational to consider that and act accordingly, but somehow people in this profession act like facing up to the reality of human mortality and eternal judgment is ludicrous or silly. I can't think of anything more foolish than not taking it seriously. Sadly, most people will waste their entire lives refusing to accept this, choosing to put it out of their minds. This is why very many "successful" people end up crying on their death beds when they realize that they are out of time, and that it's time to face reality. The pagans of old, unlike today, were wise enough to know this. Just read Seneca.

I wish you the best, and hope that you'll decide to take life seriously before it's too late. Be sober.

Epicurus

174 day(s) ago

Wow, a Truther, live in the flesh. This is making me feel all nostalgic and shit -- it's been a while since I've seen a random "9/11 was an inside job" post. You guys have sort of died out, no? Even Alex Jones has sort of dropped the Truther thing. Anyway, good times...

Anil

The next time you go to the airport and are asked like a slave to remove your shoes in the TSA security check, remember this post, and try to humble yourself and seriously consider what kind of society you are living in and why. I mean that. Just try.

Then realize that you are a creature in God's creation, and that he has done everything he can to warn you that you need to put away childish things and become a man.

When you die, you're going to leave this world behind and it won't miss you, so why sell your soul for it?

Germain

174 day(s) ago

So you're saying it's the shoe thing?


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