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File under: unsurprising. Jaworski Title IX investigation.

Blaise

12 day(s) ago

http://dailynous.com/2018/04/11/fordham-philosophy-professor- suspended-pending-university-investigation/

Virginia

12 day(s) ago

why unsurprising?

Virginia

12 day(s) ago

Jaworski published in mind. That's quite prestigious. His worth as human being is much more than most of you, whose worth as human beings are at the level of (or below that of) poop particles.

Gabrielle

12 day(s) ago

I heard he masturbated while pooping in Latin during a mass.

Karl

11 day(s) ago

Jaworski published in mind. That's quite prestigious. His worth as human being is much more than most of you, whose worth as human beings are at the level of (or below that of) poop particles.

Virginia

He published a *book review* in Mind. His publication record is actually pretty thin for an Associate Prof - one article in Phil Studies, one in Synthese and a bunch of religious journal bullshit....

Chauncey

11 day(s) ago

I only interacted with him once and he was one of the biggest assholes I've met in the profession. (If I've ever met someone worse, I've probably blocked it out of my mind.) I don't envy anyone who has to face a title ix inquisition and don't take pleasure in his having to face it, but there we are.

Socrates

11 day(s) ago

I only interacted with him once and he was one of the biggest assholes I've met in the profession. (If I've ever met someone worse, I've probably blocked it out of my mind.) I don't envy anyone who has to face a title ix inquisition and don't take pleasure in his having to face it, but there we are.

Chauncey

You mean this guy?

http://faculty.fordham.edu/jaworski/image001.jpg

https://news.fordham.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/jaworski_2.jpg

I cannot imagine.

Richard

11 day(s) ago

I only interacted with him once and he was one of the biggest assholes I've met in the profession. (If I've ever met someone worse, I've probably blocked it out of my mind.) I don't envy anyone who has to face a title ix inquisition and don't take pleasure in his having to face it, but there we are.

Chauncey

You mean this guy?

http://faculty.fordham.edu/jaworski/image001.jpg

https://news.fordham.edu/wp- content/uploads/2015/04/jaworski_2.jpg

I cannot imagine.

Socrates

Wow, I can smell the Axe body spray through the pictures.

Andy

11 day(s) ago

Bunch of sour grapes at a prestigious scholar who published in Mind, all of your scums who never published in Mind are below the level of the poop particle.

Christopher

11 day(s) ago

He published a *book review* in Mind. His publication record is actually pretty thin for an Associate Prof - one article in Phil Studies, one in Synthese and a bunch of religious journal bullshit....

Karl

Yeah, I agree that this is a very thin publication record. There are plenty of people on the market without jobs who have better looking CVs.

And I can also smell the Axe body spray through his pics.

Zou

11 day(s) ago

So what is he said to have done?

fl.

11 day(s) ago

For starters, there was this notorious Central APA hotel party...ask around about it. I'll just leave it at that.

Christopher

11 day(s) ago

For starters, there was this notorious Central APA hotel party...ask around about it. I'll just leave it at that.

fl.

Yeah. Parties are the worst.

Huang

11 day(s) ago

"For starters, there was this notorious Central APA hotel party...ask around about it. I'll just leave it at that."

Consider this my attempt at asking around.

Christopher

11 day(s) ago

"For starters, there was this notorious Central APA hotel party...ask around about it. I'll just leave it at that."

Consider this my attempt at asking around.

Huang

No. It doesn't work that way. It's ok to anonymously and vaguely refer to wrongdoing, and suggest that it was really wrong and something everyone should be very concerned about, but it's not ok to anonymously say what the wrongdoing was. Those are the rules of anonymous character assassination.

If you want details, you have to find someone who will non-anonymously do so.

Huang

11 day(s) ago

"If you want details, you have to find someone who will non-anonymously do so."

Christopher, I'm open to you using your real name and telling us.

Eudoxus

11 day(s) ago

11 articles and 2 books in about 10 years is "very thin"? I'm just talking quantity here.

Yeah, I agree that this is a very thin publication record. There are plenty of people on the market without jobs who have better looking CVs.

And I can also smell the Axe body spray through his pics.

Christopher

Eusebius

11 day(s) ago

11 articles and 2 books in about 10 years is "very thin"? I'm just talking quantity here.

Yeah, I agree that this is a very thin publication record. There are plenty of people on the market without jobs who have better looking CVs.

And I can also smell the Axe body spray through his pics.

Christopher

Eudoxus

Confusingly, there are actually two Christophers in this thread. I was the first Christopher (who agreed that the publication record is thin) but I wasn't the second Christopher.

Re publications: I do think the record is thin. I know of people who have been hired into tenure-track positions with almost those numbers (minus the books) and with articles placed in "better" journals.

I've heard 3 articles per year as an aspirational rule-of- thumb for tenure-track individuals in departments with graduate programs. According to this rule of thumb, 1 of those 3 should be serious peer-reviewed work, and then 2 can be invited or very minor. And of course this is this just a loose rule that permits exceptions. E.g. lower numbers may be fine so long as the work is thought to be hirer quality (or placed in better venues, or cited by more people, etc). And lower numbers can be offset by valuable service or extraordinary teaching or whatever. I'm not sure how widespread this informal advice is. I first heard it when I was a graduate student, but I've also heard it from an older member of my current department.

Books are harder to evaluate. E.g., is the book a recycling of several papers or is it something more? My garbage university has a ridiculous points-based system of merit in which a book is worth twice as many points as a peer-reviewed article; i.e., books ain't worth much.

In any case, I guess I do think the record is a bit thin. It looks like most his output is not peer-reviewed, and most of the peer-reviewed work is not in top journals. It ain't nothing, but in today's harsh market it seems a bit thin for such a good job. Especially if his service contributions involve accumulating Title IX investigations.

Serene

11 day(s) ago

An OUP book is worth quite a bit at most places I believe, definitely more than two journal articles!

I know nothing about this guy but his publication record with the OUP book included seems decent to me, prob. enough for tenure at a lot of places. Basically it's the OUP book, Synthese, two decent articles in anthologies, and then somewhat weirder articles that would have to be framed properly. And then the pedagogy oriented book and some book reviews. If he's many years post tenure then it starts looking thin.

Eudoxus

11 day(s) ago

Eusebius -- Thanks, for your perspective!



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