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Philosophy's harassment problem: overlooked stories

Archytas

119 day(s) ago

Harassment in philosophy gets lots of attention, but I'm sure many stories get overlooked and we focus on more "fashionable" or "obvious" narratives. Two cases I found follow. Add your own, with links.

From Diana Brickell (re: Allison Jaggar): https://www.facebook.com/dianabrickell/posts/10102139771976703

I never experienced any sexual harassment or notable sexism in the department. On the whole, I was supported and encouraged by male and female faculty, and I was treated in a professional and friendly way.

The only major exception to that was noted feminist Allison Jaggar, particularly when she was the graduate advisor. Her behavior toward me was appalling: I felt very keenly that she was trying to push me out of the department on any possible pretext. In my view, that was because I was not on board with her brand of radical leftist feminism, including plans by her and other feminists to take over the department. Alas, I was not the only non-feminist woman in the department to experience overt bias and hostility from her. Now, in light of what’s happened, I wish that I’d lodged complaints at the time.

Overall, I’m very sad — and very angry — that such a fabulously awesome philosophy department has had its reputation trashed in what seems to be little more than a radical feminist witch-hunt and power-grab.

From Lily Hope Chumley (re: CDC Reeve): https://jezebel.com/how-about-we-start-outing-people- who-do-this-rather-tha-1782325879

How about we start outing people who do this rather than protecting them? I see that the one that caused me (and lots of other people) the most personal trouble is nowhere outed on the internet, so here goes: C.D.C. Reeve, Plato scholar and philosopher of sex, is a widely-known creep, who creepily chose me as an undergraduate thesis student, and made my thesis meetings into awful torture sessions of one-sided flirting, as a result of which I fell into a deep depression, spending much time crying on the floor in the library, and thought I had no choice but to drop out of school. He clearly got pleasure out of seeing me feel trapped, nervous, confused. It was weirdly almost worse that he didn’t try to touch me, because if he had I could have made a formal complaint—but what could I do about constant sexual innuendo that me feel helpless and stupid, as if all my achievements in school were a sham, that the good grades I’d earned in his classes were nothing but pre-payment for this?

In a great stroke of luck he left for a new job at UNC half-way through my (Spring-Fall) thesis-year, and with a new (strict but non-creepy) advisor I was able to write a thesis and graduate with honors. Now I am on my way to tenure at an R-1 school (in another field) and I am ready to say: fuck that creep. I spent years trying to forget it but what I need is to be angry because I need to remind myself that he was wrong about me.

Norwood

119 day(s) ago

Scary shit. This part is particularly interesting: "including plans by her and other feminists to take over the department." The fools hiring SJWs get to feel good and not sexist for a minute while their departments get taken from them and turned into something other than philosophy departments.

Edmund

119 day(s) ago

One thing that differentiates these two stories above from the anonymous tripe you find elsewhere is that the accusers have had the courage to attach their own names to the allegations. This is far more than can be said for smears posted to the What Is It Like blog!

Peg

119 day(s) ago

I don't believe anything on the What It's Like Blog.

The stories are either ridiculous or just silly. One of them complained that graduate students in a group had told jokes with sexual content. Holy shit! Someone mentioned sex. Fuck. What about the precious women? They can't hear such things. They'll go into shock and cry if they have to think about a penis.

And while we are at it, make sure that there's no alcohol. The Women's Temperance and Chastity League won't stand for that. It's way too dangerous. Someone might get the idea that humans are sexual creatures.

All the good boys should sit around with their eyes facing the ground and wait for the women to make their selection. You'll b e notified by a polite tap on your head. At that point you may request permission to hold hands.

Peg

119 day(s) ago

I like that my handle is a term used for getting butt fucked by a strap on. Nice. That's probably the only SJW approved form of sex for a cis white dude.

Stanislaw

119 day(s) ago

I can confirm about Reeve. I know of multiple cases in which he used pretty much the same M.O., always being very careful to avoid doing anything that could count as actionable harassment, but that leaves his carefully-selected targets with no room for doubt about the nature of his interest (and, at least in some of these other cases, with the same feelings of self-doubt and self-disgust Lily Chumley reports).

Athanasius

119 day(s) ago

Interesting that anti-due process SJWs (the sort who like to post unverified stories) have found a home here in this forum.

Dorothy

118 day(s) ago

Interesting that anti-due process SJWs (the sort who like to post unverified stories) have found a home here in this forum.

Athanasius

We are the verefers. We can verefy as we debate.

Avital

118 day(s) ago

Scary shit. This part is particularly interesting: "including plans by her and other feminists to take over the department." The fools hiring SJWs get to feel good and not sexist for a minute while their departments get taken from them and turned into something other than philosophy departments.

Norwood

This is crucial. The SJWs are ready to sacrifice analytic philosophy for the sake of a power grab.

Miguel

118 day(s) ago

Interesting that anti-due process SJWs (the sort who like to post unverified stories) have found a home here in this forum.

Athanasius

Yeah, I agree. I really do.

On the other hand, I've got irrefutable, up-close knowledge of Reeve's harassment. I don't go around talking about it, but those are the facts. I guess I could add that it's no secret--unfortunately, lots of his students know about it first-hand. But what good would that do? Here, of course, it's all hearsay. There are other places where it isn't. (Though *that's* hearsay in this context, too...) So people like me are stuck between two bad options: keep quiet about something genuinely deplorable, or risk contributing to an atmosphere that promotes unsupported and often false accusations.

My solution to this problem is: I don't bring the topic up, but when it comes up, I say my peace. Which is what I just did. Then I shut up. Which is what I'm about to do. It's a bad solution, but I don't have a better one.

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